Thanks for caring about biblical accuracy. He could have spoken out of a whirlwind to them and banished them from the Garden in that form. I found it interesting that with all the opinions to the idea of walking with God in the comments section, not too many have thanked you for letting us know that Gods Word does not say that Adam or Eve walked with God in the Garden. Hi David, To spend time with Him. So what did they hear in the Garden? Hi Mel, For the record, I strongly reject such a notion. They are not taking a leisurely stroll with God, they are hiding from Him as He comes to announce His judgment. I think your comments were probably addressing this point though (http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1747). IOW, IMV Where Adam FAILED, Christ Jesus PASSED, *Saying all this Tim, I truly respect your thoughts and views as a brother in Christ. Furthermore, nothing in John 1 states that Jesus walked with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. 1. And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the afternoon; and both Adam and his wife hid themselves from the face of the Lord God in the midst of the trees of the garden. No sowing or reaping for 3 years! Adam heard God making a sound (aside from speaking) that God had made before and which enabled Adam to recognise that it was the sound of God. Im not sure what that accomplishes other than allowing for the possibility that they might have, which is something I have said from the start. Now turn to Chapter 4 of Genesis verse 13 Cain said to the Lord, My punishment is more than I can bear. Maybe they did, but the text doesnt tell us that. With that in mind, what makes you say, from the text of Genesis, that the phrase translated cool of the day would be better translated a strong wind? If strong wind is the better translation, when prior to this event did God manifest himself to Adam and Eve in a strong wind in such a way that when they heard the strong wind on this occasion, they knew instantly that it was the sound of God? John teaches that Christ the second person of the Godhead is the Creator "All things came into being through Him, and . Either way, prior to sin there was not a fractured relationship between God and man, but there certainly is as a result of sin. When the Lord made him on the sixth day, He commanded him not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. 00:00. Your article keeps us on the ever-important path of faithfulness. If youve been impacted by our resources, we invite you to make a year-end gift before December 31. What is the one thing that He values the most, as we know it? Im always amazed at how strongly some people try to defend certain positions. Thanks for reading. After all, they had not experienced or seen death as of yet. If Im narrating a scene, I can write that the main character heard a certain sound (e.g., an approaching truck or an army on the march) before the character realizes what it is that he is hearing. If I give full and clear credit to you with a link to your illustration Adam-Eve-Shame as follows: http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?attachment_id=1350. It says, "they heard the sound of God walking in the garden", and, " they hid themselves from the presence of the Lord. And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.". Like I mentioned before, I dont have a problem with the idea that they may have walked with God in the garden. My guess is that they would not have had nearly enough animals to eat over their forty year wandering. But what did they actually hear that made them afraid? And maybe that is it, people just want to believe they they did as that is such a powerful feeling knowing God is walking with you. Im not opposed to this idea. Maybe it is written somewhere else in other ancient writings? But that isnt the point of what I wrote. But even that would not prove that He took strolls with Adam. Hi Ian, The animals possess none of these characteristics, at least not to the same degree as man, so these seem like strong possibilities for what it means to be made in Gods image. Not because I think Im right and feel holier than thou but it was just something burning in me saying NO. I see familiarity here. Adam's spiritual life, through fellowship with God, depended on Adam's respect for God's laws. Our hearts were reformed for this exact purpose. In all likelihood, it comes from a misunderstanding of or making an inference from Genesis 3:8: And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day (NKJV). If we were to narrowly abide only what the text OUTRIGHT affirms of given things, then this inference would be patently erroneous or, at least, unreasonable. The serpent Satan asked her how she was doing. (Meditating upon God's Word makes it a consistent part of our daily . Adam and Eve's Separation from God . I will make a helper suitable for him" ( Genesis 2:18 ). You could be hiding with the Lord standing (figuratively speaking)right in front of them, and they wouldnt know. Why would anyone ask such a silly question? Sin Of Walking. Could the person who was walking in the Garden have been the Angel of the Lord or the Pre-Incarnate Christ? Adam was ashamed to stand before God as he was now a sinner who was about to face his righteous God. There is a possibility that we should understand that Hebrew text to be speaking about something more like the whirlwind at the end of Jobthat they heard the sound of God moving about (not walking) in the Garden. Gen 18 - Abraham's discussion and bargaining with the LORD (YHWH) Ex 3 - Moses at the burning bush. Have you ever wondered exactly how the conversation between God and Adam went down in the Garden of Eden? However, that fact has very little to do with whether He walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. But what comes to my mind is why would you choose this debated part to address the concern. So it seems as if Abel had just recently passed away. Although Exodus established that God was present everywhere through the judgement on Egypt, it also taught that God would be present in a special way in the tabernacle (later to be replaced by the temple). Im not really sure how your comment addresses Eds point at all or anything in the article. God also provided quail for a whole month (Numbers 11:1920). So there minds were NOT YET CORRUPTED until God ALLOWED there FREE WILL to be tested, just as the Father through the Holy Spirit ALLOWED Christ Jesus to be tested in the wilderness. Hi Nucc, How do your children know how to live? More than like, Cains wife was his sister, or possibly a niece. It seems likely that many people have just remembered some of the wording in this verse and assumed that it says Adam and Eve walked with God. God had told them to be fruitful and multiply (Genesis 1:28). when they heard God they hid from Him. God's presence is also noted by . Was it God walking or was it something different? It was perfectalmost. Adam and eve Adam and eve disobey god hiding footprints The Presence Of God Guilty Fear Hearing God's Voice Garden Of Eden, The Gardens Concealment . " (John 1:18) . Genesis 3:21 comes after Genesis 3:7, in which Adam and Eve ate from the Tree and realized they were naked. Here are 6 things that you need to know, insights that will help you in your life today, in helping to refine the way you view God. The NRSV's rendering makes the time more explicit, "at the time of the evening breeze" (also REB). Im not sure that it necessarily follows that there would be ongoing communion and communication between God, Adam, and Eve. But, despite the beauty of God's new world, there was one thing missing. I love my time with Him and when Im not with Him I want to do the right thing by Him, unlike Adam and Eve! I dont have a problem with people thinking that Adam and Eve walked with God (as I stated, they may have), but I want people to realize that the Bible doesnt say that they did. See my article, Was Jesus Married? What do you think?? 8 In the cool of the evening, the man and his wife heard the Lord God walking around in the garden. I hope this helps. Third, Adams response at seeing Eve confirms the point: This is now bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh (Genesis 2:23). Thanks again. god wanted to walk (live) with them in an ongoing and fruitful relationship and the whole book of Leviticus shows them how to correctly walk with god. The anthropomorphic description of God walking (mithallek) in the garden suggests the enjoyment of fellowship between him and our first parents. He could have done it audibly from the heavens, or He could have spent time with Adam in the garden. One of those commandments was as follows: "And the LORD God gave this command to Adam: 'You may freely eat from every tree in the garden, except you must not eat of the tree of the knowledge of . I have no problem with that. Later Israel recognized that God demanded holiness and obedience if he were to continue to walk among his people. Why werent they mentioned? Instead, it encourages people to draw a distinction between what Scripture actually states and the inferences we make based on those statements, even if they are quite reasonable. !NOW YOU CAN TAKE THIS LIE DOWN FOR GOOD ,,,THANK YOU !!!!STEVI. Surely, He wouldve given them the ability to do that right from the start. I hope you will continue in the pursuit of God's Truth. Because the Bible never says that Adam and Eve walked with God. Hi Tim you stated; How many pastors and other teachers have taught that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden? I never really gave it much thought that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden.God can and does whatever He wants to do. Adam and Eve heard the voice of God walking in the cool of the day.Read the KJV plus many other versions point to the fact that they walked with the voice of God. There is no need to attribute the work to me. Thanks again for reading! God called (using a Hebrew word that also means "to summon") Adam to face . Where is the specific support for this argument found anywhere in the scriptures? 00:00. It says, coats of skin. The Genesis account contains provocative clues as to what Adam and Eve lost by withdrawing from God. You cant see that Leviticus expounds on how to walk with god? They hid when they heard God; however it was that they heard Him. when they heard God walking in the garden, they hid from God. When they heard the sound of the Lord God walking about in the garden at the breezy time of the day, the man and his wife hid themselves from the Lord God among the trees of the garden (Gen. 3:8). In fact, earlier this week during a Q&A session, one of the guests asked about Adam walking with God in the garden. Please do look it up, and if you find it, let me know, so I can apologize and correct this post. If so, that means Cain and Abel could have been over 120 years old when Cain killed Abel. (NASB) Gen. 3:8. They had bone and flesh before they sinned, before they recognized their nakedness. Of course, since God is capable of making physical appearances, but we need to be careful not to assert that the Bible directly teaches this. So if the strong wind idea is actually being conveyed by the Hebrew, then there is no textual basis for claiming that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden in the cool of the day. . Thanks for the kind words. 12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned. Hi Janice, But why wouldnt the Israelites use the animals for sustenance-milk,meat,skins, etc. Adam and Eve and God literally walking next to each other in perfect harmony. The first words recorded from Eve are from her encounter with the serpent. Regardless of whether you translate the disputed phrase as cool of the day or strong wind, the text still says that God was walking in the cool of the day / wind (of the day). For more information on the subject of Heaven, see Randy Alcorns book Heaven. 10 For if, when we were enemies of God, we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through His life! Read lev 25:20 and if you shall say what shall we eat in the 7th year? I hear it on a regular basis, and many of my coworkers have said it. You read that correctly, the Bible never states that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden. Of course, from this view God was perceiveably with the pre-Fallen Adam and Eve, so that they had the privilege of regularly hanging out with Him. But Adam and Eve were almost certainly not in the Garden very long prior to their Fall. The texts of Genesis 1-3 outright tell us ONLY what is necessary for our understanding of the events from Creation to the Fall, not of side issues that mean nothing for a proper interpretation of these texts. I think this point has to be acknowledged regardless of whether you think the sound is God walking in the cool of day or God manifesting himself in a strong wind. Not once. 2. Thank you and God bless you! I agree with your conclusion that we should not assume that God was at Adam and Eves beck and call, coming around for a stroll whenever they wanted Him there, or that God spent considerable time fellowshipping with them in physical form as friends do. So, heres one guy that wont repeat this again. The untold truth of the Garden of Eden. Hi Daniel, Picture this. The parts of the claim that are not in quotes are my reasonable inferences of your intent, given what you do *say verbatim*. Second, Eve was made from Adams rib (or more accurately side), indicating that they both had physical bodies (Genesis 2:21). The only mention of walking in that part of Scripture is while Adam and Eve are hiding from God in the garden. God then created Eve, "a helper comparable to him" (verse 18). Psalm 29 also uses strong imagery to show how the sound of the Lord acts upon nature like a powerful storm, breaking and bending trees and stripping off their leaves (Psalm 29:59, NET). CLAIM #1: Suggestions include that it means we are made as rational creatures that can communicate with and worship God, or that we have been given dominion, or that we will live forever. The Bible likens our righteousness to filthy rags. Perhaps some people may have this figurative sense in mind when they speak of our first parents walking with God. Thanks for your thoughts and kind words. they heard him rebuke them. 18? The only time it mentions the voice and walking (if those are the right translations) is when Adam and Eve were hiding from God. Much like those of us that have the infilling of the Holy Ghost and walk in the Spirit. Moses was only granted the backside of Jesus. They had all they could ever want. Yes, I do understand that God desires relationship with His peopleto walk with them as they walk with Him. But its entirely different to claim that the Bible teaches or implies that they did when there just arent any statements in the text that teach or imply that position. Perhaps some people may have this figurative sense in mind when they speak of our first parents walking with God. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. I believe the context of the above verse was a time when ADAM was NOT at enmity with God and they conferred with each other. Perhaps you should take a moment to read the blog post before commenting. If the voice of God walking in the garden caused them to run and hide because of disobedience, sin, judgement. I have found Bible studies that indicate that God fellowshipped or walked with Adam and Eve, and they refer to Genesis 3:8. Im pointing out that possible understanding of the text. The first consequence of Adam and Eve's momentous decision to reject God's revelation was a . What an amazing thing to be able to do. Therefore, it is likely that Adam and Eve had been experiencing close fellowship with the Lord God. Granted, Adam and Eve walking with God poses no theological problems, but my point here is that the strength (or better, weakness) of that particular argument is roughly the same. But there is no need to make the text say something it doesnt. There may have been thousands of years, who knows? If you eat from the tree in the middle of the garden, you will die!". There are many others that could be added to this list but this illustrates . Far too often, we allow traditions, even seemingly innocent ones, to become the basis for our understanding of Scripture. Im not saying this is true, Im just pointing out that scripture does not say skins of animals or that God killed animals to clothe them. So if we can claim that they walked with God in perfect communion before sin, then we can stress how bad sin is because we dont get to do that anymore. 1. I could not find it. Genesis 3:8 Context. Ive enjoyed reading your article, the comments and your responses. Daniel, I am simply trying to point people back to Scripture as Ive done in many other posts in my Misused Verses series. The Lord God Walking in the Garden. We know that the Israelites did eat some of their animals during the year. They may have done that, and I wouldnt have any problem with it. They were to work the land 6 years right? God went down to talk with Adam and Eve as usual in the cool of the day, normally they would be in the open and easy to find, but this time when God came they were afraid and had hidden behind some trees or bushes. But thats not at all what is going on here. Maybe He was physically there throughoutthe short time that they were in the Garden, but I have my doubts. No the bible didnt directly say they walked with God. Yes, they could have done this if God made a physical appearance (called a theophany), as He did in other places (e.g., Genesis 12:7; 18:1). I too feel in my sosirt that God did not walk physically. Can a whirlwind fulfill those processes? This verse appears immediately after our first parents rebelled against the Creator. Based on the sheer number of people who have claimed this, it must be found somewhere in the Bible, right? God bless you. Thanks for reading! The children of Israel had a great amount of lifestock during the time of their exodus. 4. But there is so much more to the story. My goal in these types of blog posts is to encourage believers to look carefully at the text. I was putting together a Bible lesson today for my twin girls on the Fall of Man. Another potential source for this idea is found in the statements made about those who did walk with God. They will live forever, and as well see in the coming chapters, some of them have been given dominion over certain things. He claims that seeing Him is seeing the Father.. then I see no problem with Jesus being the physical manifestation of God walking in . So there is no need to appeal to some sort of walk in the garden for them to know Gods voice. Theres no reason to think that they waited 60+ years to have children when they were already husband and wife and were created by God to fulfill the instructions He had given them, including be fruitful and multiply.. Because Adam and Eve had eaten the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the Lord sent them out of the Garden of Eden into the world. When everything fell apart, so did the people. What if they were some sort of Spiritual Being as God and his Son were at the time. We walk with the voice of God as well. The phrase "walked with God" first appears in the Bible in Genesis 5:22 and refers to Enoch after He was "raptured" but I understand what you're asking. Regardless, my point is that Adam was familiar enough to recognized it was God. Thanks for taking the time to read the article and for the comment. The old has . For example, Enoch walked with God (Genesis 5:22, 24) and Noah walked with God (Genesis 6:9). If the idea being conveyed by the text is a strong wind then this scene was probably quite similar to the way God spoke to Job, as I mentioned in the article. The problem with this scenario is that Adam and Eve were almost certainly not in the Garden very long. But again, that doesnt change my point. Or maybe they read Gods mind. Thanks for your thoughts on this. I must stand corrected as I also remembered Adam and Eve walking in the cool of the afternoon with God. I think you misunderstand what was meant by the possibility of God coming in the wind. So it seems there would have been little or no point for God to have EVER been in their presence in the manner that this idea assumes: actually relating to them in the ordinary manner in which one human normally would relate to one or more other humans. I would think that they received one on one instruction from God. Thanks for taking the time to comment. And I think a strong case can be made for the notion that they werent in the garden very long at all. With that being said, I agree with you that it is reasonable to infer that He spent time with them, but the Bible does not imply that He did, and that was the point of this post. Before the fall, Adam and Eve were without sin and immortal . Yes, Adam and Eve were made in His image (as are all of us), but I would argue that angels are probably made in His image as well, and even the holy angels arent in ongoing (i.e. Further, although the phrase could be translated as a strong wind, the text would still say that he came walking in a strong wind. Here is the verse in its entirety. Lastly, as scripture verifies scripture, we see the second Adam, known as Jesus Christ in regular and perpetual contact with the same God and Father. Hi Carrie, I worship in His presence and put off His presence! You claim the following, which I label as CLAIM #1. It is very possible that the angelic beings are also made in the image of God. As you supposed, God did provide water for the animals too. They were created with perfect bodies and were husband and wife on the day they were created. Mentions of Eden are also made in the Bible elsewhere in Genesis, in Isaiah 51:3, Ezekiel 36:35, and Joel 2:3; Zechariah 14 and Ezekiel 47 use paradisical imagery without naming Eden. Tim- Thank you, as I came searching for information on this before placing and they walked with God in my book I am writing! The Bible doesnt say that Cains wife was from Nod. They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of . There were two special fruit trees in the garden: The Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge. http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1349, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_009.png, https://answersingenesis.org/jesus-christ/incarnation/theophanies-in-the-old-testament/, https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/cains-wife-who-was-she/, http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1747. Lord God (pre-incarnate Jesus Christ) was also the burning bush that app. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. Behold we shall not sow,nor gather in our increase: now look at 21 Then I will command my blessing upon you in the sixth year and it shall bring forth fruit for 3 years 22 and you shall sow the 8th year and eat of the old fruit until the 9th year until the fruits come in. Jack ~'()~ On page 57 of Heaven you say Before the Fall, God came to Eden to visit with Adam and Eve (Genesis 3:8). This passage refers to God walking in the Garden after Adam and Eve have fallen, but before God has confronted them. Dear Tim Chaffey, my nephew and I have read and discussed these verses endlessly. I just dont get your argument. This just goes on and on and on all the way through this book about how god expects his people to walk with him please read the book of Leviticus slowly it gives all the details that genesis doesnt. Adam and Eve were ashamed of what they had done and afraid to face God, so they hid in the trees. You can see from the above that God decreed several things for Adam to honour and obey. This is what most people have in mind when they speak of the Lord walking with Adam and Eve. God Arraigns Adam and Eve. We are lonesome here, and it is difficult for us to remember how much You love us.' . What if Adam and Eve were not human as we are today. "And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.". It would literally have been paradise just to walk with Jesus in the . I have read the account of Creation, Adam and Eve, and the Fall so many times in my lifetime, but I just recently realized that the Bible doesnt say that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden. If He did or didnt is still and can always be up for discussion , its a gut instinct in me that says no but at the end of the day Im just glad Im saved and can sort it out when I get to Heaven! It is possible that God literally walked in the Garden of Eden in the form of a human.
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